The short answer:
Cantilevers work better because they were designed for use on road and tandem bikes.
V-brakes and disc brakes were designed for mountain bikes, and then adapted for
use on road and tandem bikes.
The long answer:
(The long answer is based on years of working in busy bike repair shops and designing
bikes. It's the same answer, but if you're like me, you'll want more info to convince
you that what you read in the catalogs and magazines isn't true.)
Since the (short lived) days of the U-brake I have always said "the problem with cantilevers
is that they are lighter, easier to adjust, less expensive, and work better than
the other types of brakes."
Most tandem manufacturers use V-brakes or disc brakes
, and will tell you that they are better. What they don't know (because they don't
have a service shop that deals directly with the public) is that every year, we change
out several 'other' brand tandems to cantilevers.
The truth is, it would sure be a lot easier (and less expensive for us) in the retail
department to use V-brakes or disc brakes and just avoid this question all together....just pretend
that V-brakes or disc brakes are the best. But, because we are a full service shop, our customers
will be relying on us to make them work well. We know from experience, that educating
you is much less expensive then replacing, at no charge, 48 pairs of brakes for unhappy
customers (1997 V-brake fiasco). So, here it goes, the method to our madness:
Cantilever brakes
were used on touring bikes and tandems for decades before mountain bikes were even
invented. The cantilever evolved into an extremely powerful and reliable braking
system. Loaded touring bikes and tandems put more severe weight loads on the brakes
than did bikes with just one person on them. Cantilever brakes provided the power and
durability that it took to stop a 400 pound tandem team on a 45 pound tandem, barreling
down a 7 mile descent at an 8% grade at over 60mph.
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There was another advantage to them though. They would accommodate wide tires. When
the mountain bike was invented, cantilever brakes were used in order to accommodate
the balloon width tires. For years, all went well (except for a short love affair
with something called the U-brake in the late 1980's). But then, in the mid-1990's,
bike manufactures developed a new brake system for the mountain bike. What they
came up with was the V-brake.
V-Brakes:
V-brakes were specifically designed for off-road use on a mountain bike. The needs
of loaded touring bikes or tandems were not taken into account by mountain bike designers.
Thus, the resulting design wasn't even compatible with a standard road bike brake lever. Adapters, or special levers had to be used by manufacturers who put them
onto road bikes or tandems. None the less, the road bike and tandem industries embraced
the new standard, using the following logic: 'if the V-brake is powerful enough to
stop a mountain bike, of course it will be great on a tandem or a touring bike'.
One question they forgot to ask themselves was "what does a 400 pound tandem team,
or 250 pound loaded touring bike, barreling down a pavement highway at speeds of
over 60mph have in common with a 179 pound guy going 20mph down a dirt road?" The
answer is "very little, if anything." Well, after we had a summer full of really bad experiences
with the new V-brakes (including on my own tandem), we went back to the old fashioned
cantilever. This wasn't easy, and we ended up having to import them ourselves.
This is the reason that most manufacturers don't offer them, it's hard to bring them
into the country yourself, but we think it's worth it to have our bikes perform better
than other touring bikes and tandems. Now, don't get me wrong, if you want V-brakes, they use the same braze-on as cantilevers and we'll put them on at no extra charge.
We've had a few customers choose V-brakes over cantilevers (they loved the brakes
on their mountain bike), but they both had us change their bike to cantilevers before
a year was up.
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The disadvantages when using V-brakes on touring bikes and tandems are many, the first
of which is probably the most important. Pad wear: On a mountain bike, you don't put on lots of miles. I mean, you don't ride 50 miles + in a day very often. On a touring bike or a tandem, these distances are common. In an off-road situation the weight of the rider and his bike might be 175 pounds or so, whereas a loaded touring bike and its rider will be more like 250 pounds (and well over 400 pounds on a loaded tandem). In an off-road situation a high speed might be 25 miles per hour, and the terrain is loose dirt or mud. If you pull the brakes, the tire skids, and your brake pad isn't getting worn much, versus 40 to 60mph on a pavement surface...no skidding and much faster pad wear. A V-brake pad is very thin. As a matter of fact, they only have 2mm or so of brake pad to wear off before the pad is worn out. Then you're running metal on metal. In contrast, even the thinnest of cantilever brake pads have 5mm of wear (some almost twice that much). I was only getting 250 to 300 miles on my V-brake pads when I had them on my tandem, but I can get thousands of miles on a set of cantilever pads. Convenience: The mountain bike V-brake requires an adapter to make it compatible with a road bike brake lever. In our service shop we see hundreds of bikes per year with centering problems when people have to use these adapters. On my own tandem, I had to center the brakes a couple times a day when I was using them a lot. The V-brake has long arms that extend higher than the rack bosses on most bikes. This makes it very difficult to install a rear rack (something that every touring bike should have). The Road V-brake: Some manufacturers have come up with what they call the 'road' V-brake. This is a V-brake with shorter arms, and addresses the 'adapter' and the 'rack mounting' problem. Unfortunately, it creates another problem. The arms are so short, that you can't put fenders on most of the bikes that use them. The pads still wear out just as fast, and the other problems of V-brakes still exist (read on). Annoyance: Nothing is more annoying than brakes that squeal louder than a jet engine. Since V-brakes weren't designed to be used at the speeds and weight loads of tandems and loaded touring bikes, they tend to squeal (really loud) when being used in this fashion. They don't always have this problem, but more so than cantilevers. When a bike has this problem, it is very hard to correct. Positives: Most road and tandem bikes with V-brakes can be easily fitted with cantilevers. As a matter of fact, we do several a year right here in the repair shop for customers who have reached the end of the rope with their state-of-the-art V-brakes. |
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Disc brakes:
Disc brakes have come a long way in the last 10 years. They have really evolved into a brake that will stop a tandem almost as well as a cantilever. The cost of them has dropped substantially as well, and I far prefer them to a V-brake now. A few years ago, I would've rather had a V-brake, but now I think the disc is less troublesome. Most tandem companies now use disc as they are superior to the V-brake, and because the conventional wisdom says "why fight what everyone is asking for?" If we simply manufactured our bikes and sent them to dealers, then the dealer would have to deal with any problems. In our company though, we are the only dealer, so we are the ones who will be taking care of your new bike. I want to make it clear that if you want disc brakes on your tandem, we're happy to build for them. But I want to make sure you know that just because you like them on your mountain bike, that doesn't necessarily mean that you'll like them on your tandem. You've all heard the ravings of how great they are, but I wanted to let you know that there are a few disadvantages that you should consider. These are the things that most companies won't be bragging about. Increased weight:
Frame weight:
A disc brake stops the wheel at the hub. This causes a lot more stress on the spokes, rim and frame at the points where the wheel attaches. When we build a bike for disc brakes, we build with heavier chain stays and seat stays, and often install a brace between them. We've found that if we don't, the frame has a tendency to break at the dropout. The bike winds up heavier, but only slightly.
Wheel weight:
Component weight:
Noise:
Difficulty of portability:
Difficulty of mounting racks: None of these disadvantages effect the mountain biker, and I highly recommend disc brakes on mountain bikes. |
Cantilevers work better tandems and touring bikes because they were designed for use on road and tandem bikes.
V-brakes and disc brakes were designed for mountain bikes, and then adapted for
use on road and tandem bikes.
Not convinced? Don't worry about it, we'll put on anything you want, as long as you understand 'there is a method to our madness.'
Read about our brand new Trillium Big Squeeze cantilever brakes here